also an upgrade to where you can autobuy stuff for each class, this upgrade will be in the tier 3 (+miners+runners+scientists, +ect untill you have everything on auto buy)
What are the requirements for Mapped Destruction? Powder Hall 3 said it would unlock Mapped Destruction, but it’s still showing as runes, and not showing what it would take to unlock.
It's most likely just me, but it seems as if I can't find a way to reliably save my game. Will there be an option to copy exported data to clipboard, as well as import said data to access my save in the future?
There is no import into browsers due to some GX JS issues I wasn't able to solve. You can only import into desktop. It's unlikely I'll add clipboard soon, since I'm focusing on the full release for steam version, sorry. Strange that you can't reliably save, I'm guessing your browser's cache it at fault, deleting your data on its own.
-Demolitionists are either too OP or all other towers are just weak end game. That or maybe damage from other sources are registering as demolitionist? Not sure, but they are doing 99% of my damage end game.
-Costs for upgrades are about 5% more than advertised on some upgrades (scientist discount not working?)
-When I bought cluster pick for the first time I had to reload my game due to an insane 1 fps lag, but didnt lag again until far into late game
-Maybe needs a tradeoff upgrade where theres a lower chance to have stones fly out at the cost of turret attack speed or stronger stons to reduce amount of objects on the screen at any one time. Mainly to reduce lag.
Easily this game is one of the best incrementals on the platform and if you can tune end game just right, you will make it even better.
-Yeah currently in the late game demodwarves scale the most because of underground mapping infinitely buffing them so much. In the full game every unit will have a similarly powerful way to scale. Eg some may benefit from shrine or meadhall or wizard towers or just other normal upgrades/artifacts yet not added.
-The incorrect cost display was an issue few patches ago where the display was different to the effect of scientists. Were you perhaps playing on an older version?
-Yeah the upgrade panels aren't fully optimized yet and can lag when buying upgrades in the late game. Though if it happened to you early it's a bit stranger.
-The performance is a tough nut to crack, especially since the physics engine can hardly be optimized further. There is still work to be done in other areas such as falling rocks, though reducing their count isn't as simple to make work.
living life on easy mode over here. please add abbreveations when possible so overflowing numbers dont overlap like on the main screen or upgrades (yes i see gold gets abbreveated once in millions for upgrades) EDIT: i believe my gold is in the Quintillions (Qn)
Yeah in the late game spamming upgrades as well as just opening the prestige/artifact panels can lag as they aren't very optimized yet. Gold number truncation is also coming. And I feel you on the gold pile. It pains me that in the late game you can reach states where there is no more beautiful massive gem pile.
This is one of the best games in this genre I've seen in a long time. I'm looking forward to the Steam demo and then the release. I wish you great luck and success in development👍
What sorcery is this lol!? Not sure why this would happen. Can't replicate it. Were you perhaps playing on browser and the resolution/window was off and toggling F4 on and off would've fixed it?
I liked your game I've played Similar games to this but this is my favorite wall destroyer so far the prestige abilities actually seem to help and the pacing is ok. EDIT* spelling mistakes
This game was more fun than I would expect! I really enjoyed it. The only problem is there is no challenge in the game. I understand it's an idle game and they kinda work like that. However for a PC game people might expect something a little bit more challenging. In demo it's kinda lacking that, only spend gold and wait could be a bit boring if it makes sense. Well it was fun for me to maximize the income/damage and try different stuffs during run but not really wanted to go for a second run. I read that there will be damage check and bosses in full release, that's actually sounds exciting. I hope it can bring some deeper mechanics and give a reason to reset game and play again. I already wishlisted and will get the full game on Steam. Wish you the best of luck!
You're not wrong, incremental games tend to not really have a difficulty/challenge or game-over aspect per se. It's more about casual chill numbers go up vibe. However they can be challenging and have room for expression/skill if you wish to beat them in most efficient/fastest manner. Or perhaps obtain difficult steam achievements. Or self imposed rules or challenges. Or just enjoy seeing how far you can get in the endless mod with all the upgrades. But yeah there will be a couple prestige/damage checks, some likely in a chill way where if you can't beat the check it's not necessarily hard game over, but you do not get a unique artifact which is required to unlock a "last" boss/ending and achievements.
"Game can slow down on browsers when there are a lot of physics objects on screen in the late game. You can disable shine shader and particles in the options, which should help. But sadly there's only so much that can be done for browsers. Game runs way better on desktop."
I've played this wanting to take things to a extreme but I've run into a unique problem: the amount of dwarf housing is covered by t he ever increasing cost
After nearly a week of mostly leaving it running while at work i have all* upgrades. Past 60somthing I never seemed to have enough AA but finally got over the mithrill shortage. Cheapest unit i can get (Demo) costs 5.3M Next Runesmith is 14.1M, laser is 16.2M, turret is 21.1M and bulldozer is 16.3M. (I have no luck enchantments on the cannon since its 7.9M but all other enchantments are maxed.) Most annoying thing is currently the mountain vacuums up about 1/5th to 1/4th of the treasure before it even touches the ground.
Cool to see! :) Yeah it's a constant struggle to balance the treasure/collectors/mountain-reclaiming. I'd love to see huge gem piles even in the late game, but it seems impossible to do with how the game plays...
Very addictive for a hands-off game! Done a few runs to level 50 before resetting. Eagerly waiting for the full release down the track on Steam.
It feels that past level 50 the constant bombardment of falling stones is overwhelming currently (Though may be because of the demo and available buildings). Even several well upgraded AR defense cannons coupled with vehicle turrets and several layers of rock destroying lasers covering the top I feel kind of resigned to watching the runners get thumped constantly from the storm of rocks and other things. Dodge chance, shields and beard powers only go so far.
Yeah currently even with rocket salvo and laser shielder aura it can get too much or too costly to upkeep with the bombardment. I will certainly be adding more defenses, but it's a challenge to keep it balanced well. Thanks for feedback!
I pushed this game to it's current limits and there's a lot of balancing needed for end game. Mithril and souls are too hard to come by to max the upgrades. I still haven't maxed everything due to this. The balancing issue is clear though as the upgrades need 8 mithril and 6000g. I'm hitting 50,000,000 gold before I get those 8 mithril at this point as it takes so long to progress a single level now. Maybe the mithril and souls you have left over when you prestige could carry over into the next runs?
Great game though. Fresh and fun concept and I like the fact that it is an actual idler that doesn't need constant baby sitting (except for the start, and early mid game when you are rapidly farming artifacts)
Indeed, there will be more ways to obtain mithril and souls, and more ways to spend gold (all the upgrades will also scale higher). But I still like mithril/souls being a limiting factor that prevents you from obtaining every upgrade too early. Thanks for the feedback!
Does mithril get much, much rarer past some point, or does it stop popping up without an artifact's help? I haven't found a single piece in my gameplay for a while. Hope this isn't a bother to answer I'm just confused
Atm mithril mainly drops from killing dens and in the very late game less of them die mainly because den's HP scales of % of mountain's HP, which can get exponentially/absurdly high after a point. But I will be adding more ways of obtaining mithril, as well as having a tiny drop chance from normal damage.
I hope you finish this game so I can see new dwarf boys I find them so cute I wonder what the new building will do when your done thank you for replying :)
I can't believe how fun a glorified screensaver can be. I put quite a few hours into this! Some feedback: -Sometimes there is a lagspike but it runs great otherwise. -I don't like how 7 miners in mandatory to progress with building stuff. At least let me get rid of them so I can have a build without them -Ballista is pretty much mandatory and the only thing you need as it is the only thing good with dealing bases and has very high damage. Maybe it should be more anti-base focused or give homing upgrades to others. -Lasers could have an upgrade that makes them anti projectile focused at the cost of damage. In the postgame it is the only semi viable AA
-I think the lagspike might be due to the game autosaving in the late game. Not sure what to do about that. -Soon the 7 miners won't be mandatory as I will rework the progression. -There will definitely be more AA options in the future. Thanks for feedback! :)
Hey I am running this on a absolute brick 2000's laptop and running all upgreades past lvl 200 if you are interested in any metrics. Great game and happy to help if my back end has anything helpful to you.
Hey thanks for the feedback, though I'm not sure what metrics would really help me. I just hope the game is running well for you at that point? Hopefully you get 60+ fps still with everything disabled in the settings? Game is CPU bound due to physics simulation, so as long as that isn't a complete potato it should be fine. Though there must still be work done to optimize stuff further.
This game is really fun. I played it quite a bit as you can tell.I cant wait for the relase. The only thing that is annoying after a prestige it takes a long time to be fast again. There arent a lot of permanent speed upgrades sadly.
Heyo! I was playing on my browser but it was slow so now Im going to download the game and play on downloaded file. Ive exported the autosave, how do I carry over the autosave file to the downloaded version?
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pp idea: holding down click will automaticlly throw ores(+1cps,+3cps,+5cps)
also an upgrade to where you can autobuy stuff for each class, this upgrade will be in the tier 3 (+miners+runners+scientists, +ect untill you have everything on auto buy)
You mean to automate buying of units? Not sure it's really that kind of game for that feature to be very useful
I'm not sure what you mean? You can hold down click to knock ores towards the stash already.
I can't transfer the save files from the browser to the downloaded game, I just don't see such a button.
pls help
You don't see this Export button? And the two files it downloads, you just put into C:\Users\USER\AppData\Local\Mountain_Eaters
Plz write release notes in activity section when you update the game on Steam. :)
You're right, I usually do, but yesterday it was such a small hotfix with just a couple of fixes/tweaks that I didn't.
What a great game, great pacing. Really enjoyed this for hours.
What are the requirements for Mapped Destruction? Powder Hall 3 said it would unlock Mapped Destruction, but it’s still showing as runes, and not showing what it would take to unlock.
EDIT: Nevermind, found the prestige upgrade.
It's most likely just me, but it seems as if I can't find a way to reliably save my game. Will there be an option to copy exported data to clipboard, as well as import said data to access my save in the future?
There is no import into browsers due to some GX JS issues I wasn't able to solve. You can only import into desktop. It's unlikely I'll add clipboard soon, since I'm focusing on the full release for steam version, sorry. Strange that you can't reliably save, I'm guessing your browser's cache it at fault, deleting your data on its own.
No, it's fine. Thank you, either way!
What are the prerequisites for getting the option to recruit bulldozers?
You first need to buy a T3 prestige upgrade that unlocks Manufactorum building.
Ah, got it. Thank you.
What does it mean if an upgrade is listed with a cost of “N/A”?
It means it's not available in the demo. They're just little teasers. :)
Great game overall and super addicting!
Things that I noticed that might need looking at
-Demolitionists are either too OP or all other towers are just weak end game. That or maybe damage from other sources are registering as demolitionist? Not sure, but they are doing 99% of my damage end game.
-Costs for upgrades are about 5% more than advertised on some upgrades (scientist discount not working?)
-When I bought cluster pick for the first time I had to reload my game due to an insane 1 fps lag, but didnt lag again until far into late game
-Maybe needs a tradeoff upgrade where theres a lower chance to have stones fly out at the cost of turret attack speed or stronger stons to reduce amount of objects on the screen at any one time. Mainly to reduce lag.
Easily this game is one of the best incrementals on the platform and if you can tune end game just right, you will make it even better.
-Yeah currently in the late game demodwarves scale the most because of underground mapping infinitely buffing them so much. In the full game every unit will have a similarly powerful way to scale. Eg some may benefit from shrine or meadhall or wizard towers or just other normal upgrades/artifacts yet not added.
-The incorrect cost display was an issue few patches ago where the display was different to the effect of scientists. Were you perhaps playing on an older version?
-Yeah the upgrade panels aren't fully optimized yet and can lag when buying upgrades in the late game. Though if it happened to you early it's a bit stranger.
-The performance is a tough nut to crack, especially since the physics engine can hardly be optimized further. There is still work to be done in other areas such as falling rocks, though reducing their count isn't as simple to make work.
Thanks for the feedback! :)
very fun
is this intented?
How did this happen? :o
I just put my cursor near the screen border while hovering over the mountains health. I was in full screen in browser, if that helps.
Gonna buy this as soon as it hits steam
was buying laser cannons and got this error message:
___________________________________________
############################################################################################
ERROR in action number 1
of Step Event0 for object oGUI:
Unable to get variable tiers from object 000001B5F65BEC80
############################################################################################
gml_Object_oGUI_Step_0 (line 372)
Now that's a very obscure weird bug that could happen on old saves. It will be fixed in the next patch. Thanks for reporting!
EDIT: i believe my gold is in the Quintillions (Qn)
also since i have so much of everything, i can spam upgrades which SEVERELY lags the game
EDIT: i have no more beautiful gold pile :(
Yeah in the late game spamming upgrades as well as just opening the prestige/artifact panels can lag as they aren't very optimized yet.
Gold number truncation is also coming.
And I feel you on the gold pile. It pains me that in the late game you can reach states where there is no more beautiful massive gem pile.
This is one of the best games in this genre I've seen in a long time. I'm looking forward to the Steam demo and then the release. I wish you great luck and success in development👍
Manufactorum still crashing in v0.5.1 (browser) if you haven't placed the ballistics workshop before.
ERROR in action number 1
of Step Event0 for object oGUI:
Unable to find instance for object index -4
at gml_Script_anon@240473@___struct___1212@initializeBuildings@BUILDINGS
############################################################################################
gml_Script_anon@240473@___struct___1212@initializeBuildings@BUILDINGS (line -1)
gml_Object_oGUI_Step_0
True. Thanks for reporting. It should be fixed with the newest patch 0.5.2.0
I am having an issue with the manufactorum. Crashes every time I click it.
Are you on the most recent patch? This should be fixed in the latest hotfix.
woah! I have been gone for a few months, things have changed for the better, I got to update my review next update
Huh. Game crashes when I click on the manufactorum, didn't last prestige. Uncaught exception, here's the error text:
___________________________________________
############################################################################################
ERROR in action number 1
of Step Event0 for object oGUI:
Unable to find instance for object index -4
at gml_Script_anon@240305@___struct___1211@initializeBuildings@BUILDINGS
############################################################################################
gml_Script_anon@240305@___struct___1211@initializeBuildings@BUILDINGS (line -1)
gml_Object_oGUI_Step_0
Same for me
It should be fixed now hopefully.
It is, you're the Man!
I believe this would happen if you didn't have laboratory placed when you clicked on manufcatorum, so hopefully it's fixed with the latest patch.
Thanks for reporting!
the Khazad Greathold is one pixel off the ground
What sorcery is this lol!? Not sure why this would happen. Can't replicate it. Were you perhaps playing on browser and the resolution/window was off and toggling F4 on and off would've fixed it?
whatever you did fixed it
I liked your game I've played Similar games to this but this is my favorite wall destroyer so far the prestige abilities actually seem to help and the pacing is ok. EDIT* spelling mistakes
Awesome to hear. Thanks for feedback!
This game was more fun than I would expect! I really enjoyed it. The only problem is there is no challenge in the game. I understand it's an idle game and they kinda work like that. However for a PC game people might expect something a little bit more challenging. In demo it's kinda lacking that, only spend gold and wait could be a bit boring if it makes sense. Well it was fun for me to maximize the income/damage and try different stuffs during run but not really wanted to go for a second run. I read that there will be damage check and bosses in full release, that's actually sounds exciting. I hope it can bring some deeper mechanics and give a reason to reset game and play again. I already wishlisted and will get the full game on Steam. Wish you the best of luck!
You're not wrong, incremental games tend to not really have a difficulty/challenge or game-over aspect per se. It's more about casual chill numbers go up vibe. However they can be challenging and have room for expression/skill if you wish to beat them in most efficient/fastest manner. Or perhaps obtain difficult steam achievements. Or self imposed rules or challenges. Or just enjoy seeing how far you can get in the endless mod with all the upgrades. But yeah there will be a couple prestige/damage checks, some likely in a chill way where if you can't beat the check it's not necessarily hard game over, but you do not get a unique artifact which is required to unlock a "last" boss/ending and achievements.
Thank you for the feedback and wishlist! :)
Wonderful game i love it
i just want to ask but what is the benefit to downloading the game over just playing on this website.
"Game can slow down on browsers when there are a lot of physics objects on screen in the late game. You can disable shine shader and particles in the options, which should help. But sadly there's only so much that can be done for browsers. Game runs way better on desktop."
cool thanks for the reply
I've played this wanting to take things to a extreme but I've run into a unique problem: the amount of dwarf housing is covered by t he ever increasing cost
Hah that's quite a problem to have. I will make it so the number display is also shown in the description panel so that it's still visible even then.
After nearly a week of mostly leaving it running while at work i have all* upgrades.
Past 60somthing I never seemed to have enough AA but finally got over the mithrill shortage.
Cheapest unit i can get (Demo) costs 5.3M
Next Runesmith is 14.1M, laser is
16.2M, turret is 21.1M and bulldozer is 16.3M.
(I have no luck enchantments on the cannon since its 7.9M but all other enchantments are maxed.)
Most annoying thing is currently the mountain vacuums up about 1/5th to 1/4th of the treasure before it even touches the ground.
Cool to see! :)
Yeah it's a constant struggle to balance the treasure/collectors/mountain-reclaiming. I'd love to see huge gem piles even in the late game, but it seems impossible to do with how the game plays...
Very addictive for a hands-off game! Done a few runs to level 50 before resetting. Eagerly waiting for the full release down the track on Steam.
It feels that past level 50 the constant bombardment of falling stones is overwhelming currently (Though may be because of the demo and available buildings). Even several well upgraded AR defense cannons coupled with vehicle turrets and several layers of rock destroying lasers covering the top I feel kind of resigned to watching the runners get thumped constantly from the storm of rocks and other things. Dodge chance, shields and beard powers only go so far.
It's still kind of fun to watch though!
Yeah currently even with rocket salvo and laser shielder aura it can get too much or too costly to upkeep with the bombardment. I will certainly be adding more defenses, but it's a challenge to keep it balanced well.
Thanks for feedback!
I pushed this game to it's current limits and there's a lot of balancing needed for end game. Mithril and souls are too hard to come by to max the upgrades. I still haven't maxed everything due to this. The balancing issue is clear though as the upgrades need 8 mithril and 6000g. I'm hitting 50,000,000 gold before I get those 8 mithril at this point as it takes so long to progress a single level now. Maybe the mithril and souls you have left over when you prestige could carry over into the next runs?
Great game though. Fresh and fun concept and I like the fact that it is an actual idler that doesn't need constant baby sitting (except for the start, and early mid game when you are rapidly farming artifacts)
Indeed, there will be more ways to obtain mithril and souls, and more ways to spend gold (all the upgrades will also scale higher). But I still like mithril/souls being a limiting factor that prevents you from obtaining every upgrade too early.
Thanks for the feedback!
Does mithril get much, much rarer past some point, or does it stop popping up without an artifact's help? I haven't found a single piece in my gameplay for a while. Hope this isn't a bother to answer I'm just confused
Atm mithril mainly drops from killing dens and in the very late game less of them die mainly because den's HP scales of % of mountain's HP, which can get exponentially/absurdly high after a point. But I will be adding more ways of obtaining mithril, as well as having a tiny drop chance from normal damage.
I hope you finish this game so I can see new dwarf boys I find them so cute I wonder what the new building will do when your done thank you for replying :)
I can't believe how fun a glorified screensaver can be. I put quite a few hours into this!
Some feedback:
-Sometimes there is a lagspike but it runs great otherwise.
-I don't like how 7 miners in mandatory to progress with building stuff. At least let me get rid of them so I can have a build without them
-Ballista is pretty much mandatory and the only thing you need as it is the only thing good with dealing bases and has very high damage. Maybe it should be more anti-base focused or give homing upgrades to others.
-Lasers could have an upgrade that makes them anti projectile focused at the cost of damage. In the postgame it is the only semi viable AA
-I think the lagspike might be due to the game autosaving in the late game. Not sure what to do about that.
-Soon the 7 miners won't be mandatory as I will rework the progression.
-There will definitely be more AA options in the future.
Thanks for feedback! :)
Hey I am running this on a absolute brick 2000's laptop and running all upgreades past lvl 200 if you are interested in any metrics. Great game and happy to help if my back end has anything helpful to you.
Hey thanks for the feedback, though I'm not sure what metrics would really help me. I just hope the game is running well for you at that point? Hopefully you get 60+ fps still with everything disabled in the settings? Game is CPU bound due to physics simulation, so as long as that isn't a complete potato it should be fine. Though there must still be work done to optimize stuff further.
sorry if this has been asked a bajillion times, is there an estimated full release yet? Really loving the game
Thank you! Not sure yet, I'll probably have a steam demo ready in the next few weeks, and the full release hopefully in a couple of months.
Aye the prestige upgrades will get reworked soon, and the early game's speed after prestiging will get improved. Thanks for feedback!
i really like this game.
its fun.
really fun
i would love to post an image on my progress but its not letting me
Just wanted to say that I am loving this game, I have wishlisted it on steam and cannot wait for the full release. Well done and keep up the good work
Thanks for the wishlist and your kind words! :)
The scientist discount seems to be bugged? It shows the upgrades as discounted yes but it still takes the original price to buy them.
You're right. I uploaded a hotfix. Thanks for reporting!
i wished listed it on steam but i laptop is not a potato it is a lemon can it run the game
Game is CPU bound, so as long as the lemon has a fine-ish CPU, it should be alright, even if it gets a little bit sour in the very late game. :)
Heyo! I was playing on my browser but it was slow so now Im going to download the game and play on downloaded file. Ive exported the autosave, how do I carry over the autosave file to the downloaded version?
You just put them into C:\Users\USER\AppData\Local\Mountain_Eaters
love this game <3
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